y'all really putting the squeeze on me to defend state capitalism against the gamers god dammit

never forget bush did 9/11 and hong kong protestors are funded by the burgoeise afraid china is going to take their slaves, the cia, and fascists, so even if you dont like the chinese government, which, fair enough, maybe consider pretty much everything is fash horseshit before getting too wrapped up in a particular side

hot take version: there's a lot of great reasons to boycott blizzard but im not too gung ho on cancelling them for telling someone to not use their platform to regurgitate cia propaganda :blobcatsip:

@anna I don't even use Bilzzard and I know next to nothing about Hong Kong but this sounds right to me. If means a socialist revolution in Hong Kong today, great. If it means to stop China because British Capitalism is better, um...

@anna If we could refrain from jumping on slogans developed by the CIA instantly before learning the first thing about a situation that would be great.

Experts on Hong Kong please comment. (This implies if you're not an expert on Hong Kong maybe don't).

@tesseract yeah im not backing a particular side because i dont understand it all the way, ~*both sides*~ are being suspiciously shitty so im defaulting to stanning neither unless i get good info that compels me to take one

@anna @tesseract thank you, more people should use this approach when they are not sure whats going on. if you want me to bombard you with tons of sources showing that China is socialist, let me know.

@felix @tesseract i mean im aware of the controversy, china still more state capitalist than id like, and if anything, fuck them for making me have weary-ass arguments with anarchists over authoritarianism, but they are markedly less fucked than the US so ill give them that

north korea is right though, they were way too seduced by the allure of market forces

Enter discipleship

@anna @felix I know that China spends more on renewable power than anybody else and they plant more trees than anybody else.

Not here to say that China is perfect because no state is perfect. A socialist state is an imperfect transitional period. This is like basic socialist theory here. Expecting the state of China to be perfect is a fool's game. A State Will Never Be Perfect Because States Are Bad. But some states may transition into a better situation.

Is China going in that direction? I dunno. I am not a China expert.

@tesseract @felix that transitional period will never end as long as the us exists, either

@anna @felix Yup. The USA's top priority is stopping communism worldwide. It has been since, well, since Karl Marx existed.

Let's not get sucked into the game of feeling like we have to declare if China is Good or Evil and if the Hong Kong movement is Good or Evil and if the gamer is Good or Evil and that we have to pick the correct team to cheer for... This is passive adolescent thinking that capitalism wants you to adhere to. Just stop it everybody.

@tesseract @anna @felix

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