i miss when the fediverse wasn't 95% pearlclutching creeps who join whatever harassment campaign comes their way that they feel obligated to join lest they become the next day's target

at least i am grateful for learning a year or so ago that as compelling of an idea as the fediverse is, we're just not ready for it yet and any attempt to make it what it needs to be will just be fought against by the most tiresome and lowstakes grifters imaginable, and there's better uses of my time. i keep w.l up for whatever respite it may offer some, and in hopes someday it will be time, but i ain't puttin no eggs i can't afford to lose in that basket, if you catch my obvious drift.

@anna I think the fediverse has potential. Outside of silo systems it is maybe the best decentralised socnet yet. But there are still a lot of problems.

At some point I realized that I either needed to leave or to write my own server. Other instance software at the time was either unable or unwilling to add the kinds of moderator controls which could get on top of the growing avalanche of detritus.

@bob while the tech can of course always be better, and i can think of a few ways off the top of my head to improve things somewhat, its always going to be an uphill battle when any social network will be infested with and, without care, accidentally incentivize the worst imaginable lib idpol grifters who do things like get more out of screaming about how other marginalized people should be cancelled to get themselves off because that's way more gratifying and rewarding than learning to use filters and tags and otherwise curating their own content

@anna @bob There is never any shortage of grifters. But I think of it like traffic shaping. I don't need to encounter all traffic, and I can sometimes see jams coming before they arrive.

Enter discipleship

@bob based on what i have seen both countless fedi instances go through as well as a whole host of other online communities, problems will always crop up until it is more highly incentivized to set and respect boundaries and be, if not nice, at least respectful toward each others' humanity, than it is to run a series of clout grifts and make the loudest, hottest takes possible

@anna @bob A lot of that ethos comes from from the ego competitions and influencers of the silo systems. Folks bring their baggage along with them.

But here there's no need to care about clout of having millions of followers. Things don't need to scale. I am not leveraging my personal brand, or whatever buzzwords are doing the TED conference circuit this week.

@bob others have astutely pointed out that the fediverse has managed to create its own version of the blue checkmark problem, without even having the clarity of there being a checkmark to help people not Extremely Online to get their bearings. i can't even say i wasn't part of this problem for some stretch of time. and this gets into where i think the reward loops and incentives for posting need to be rethought from the ground up. how do you encourage community and respectful and positive discussion over being the biggest baddest bitch who holds others underwater to remain top dog, but also be alluring enough to get off the ground at all?

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